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THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 1	Posted - 2017.01.04 17:28:37 - [1] - Quote Disclaimer: This is just for fun and not very practical! (unless you are in fact planning to train every skill on one remap ) Though it could provide some insight Hi all, I was curious so I did some math to see how certain remaps would fair for training EVERY skill in EVE. Time (years) to train every EVE skill per remap (+5 implants) PRI SEC SP/Hour Time (years) per int 2,343 24.01 per mem 2,324 24.21 per wil 2,297 24.50 int per 2,293 24.54 per cha 2,263 24.86 mem per 2,262 24.86 int wil 2,236 25.16 wil per 2,233 25.19 wil int 2,223 25.30 int mem 2,220 25.35 mem wil 2,210 25.45 wil mem 2,209 25.46 mem int 2,206 25.50 int cha 2,181 25.80 mem cha 2,155 26.11 wil cha 2,153 26.13 cha per 2,135 26.35 cha int 2,102 26.77 cha mem 2,088 26.95 cha wil 2,087 26.96 nul nul 1,980 28.41 PRI = 27 + 5 = 32 with implants SEC = 21 + 5 = 26 with implants Other = 17 + 5 = 22 with implants Yes, I know there are other combinations of attributes but I only calculated the format of PRIMARY \| SECONDARY, and PER/INT is provably the fastest when training EVERY skill. I obtained these numbers by grouping all skills into their "attribute groups" based on PRI and SEC attributes, totaling the SP from these groups, applying the math for implants and remaps to each of them, and summing their totals. The equations are simply as follows: Training(minutes) = SP / ( (PRIMARY) + (SECONDARY/2) ) so... SP/Hour = ( (PRIMARY) + (SECONDARY/2) ) * 60 Example: Perfect INT/MEM remap = ( (32) + (26/2) ) * 60 = 2700 SP/Hour (with +5 implants) In fact, you can calculate any combination of implants and remaps by using the above formulas with the below data. 'Attribute Group' SP Share: Every Skill in EVE falls into one of the below attribute pairs PRI SEC Group SP cha int 7,168,000 cha mem 7,168,000 cha per 18,432,000 cha wil 3,072,000 int mem 143,616,000 int per 11,008,000 mem cha 9,472,000 mem int 24,320,000 mem per 33,024,000 mem wil 2,048,000 per wil 196,352,000 wil cha 1,280,000 wil int 7,168,000 wil per 28,672,000 TOTAL 492,800,000 Note how perception only has one combination where it's a primary attribute, and it still wins! (spaceship command OP) This next chart shows the total SP each attribute can affect as both PRI and SEC SP 'involved' per Attribute PRIMARY SECONDARY cha 35,840,000 10,752,000 int 154,624,000 38,656,000 mem 68,864,000 150,784,000 per 196,352,000 91,136,000 wil 37,120,000 201,472,000 So yeah, most of this information isn't particularly useful, but I hope you've had some fun viewing it! PLEASE actually USE your remaps :) If you have any questions or want me to calculate something with other combinations let me know, I couldn't upload anything as I've done this at work, but I may be able to create a spreadsheet at home later if anyone is interested. And please let me know if you find any errors as this was all done manually -THE PROG
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 1	Posted - 2017.01.04 17:28:54 - [2] - Quote reserved
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 1	Posted - 2017.01.04 17:35:04 - [3] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: The only "useful" conclusion I get from that is that charisma sucks. well... PER/CHA at #5! But yeah the worst by FAR as it's used in the least skills and the (mostly) least useful
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 4	Posted - 2017.01.04 19:29:05 - [4] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: +1 to the OP, that's definitely some good work. I don't do Neural Remaps since I basically do a lot of jumping around training different skills. Because of that I've set my attributes up like a 'Jack Of All Skill Groups'. Attributes / Augmentations : Intelligence 22 / +5 Improved = 27 Perception 20 / +5 Improved = 25 Willpower 20 / +5 Improved = 25 Memory 20 / +5 Improved = 25 Charisma 17 / +5 Improved = 22 Anyway, I'm not sure where my Attribute set up would rate on your list. DMC Your mapping does pretty well for training all skills: SP/Hour Time (years) custom 2,274 24.73
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 5	Posted - 2017.01.04 20:51:38 - [5] - Quote Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: What would Per 5 Intel 4 and Will 1 work out too? Not sure what you mean, you get 14 remap points if everything is reset to lowest
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 12	Posted - 2017.01.05 19:16:59 - [6] - Quote Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: THE PROG wrote: Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: What would Per 5 Intel 4 and Will 1 work out too? Not sure what you mean, you get 14 remap points if everything is reset to lowest Yes my bad Im thinking the ten points and forgot the other 4. So would be Per 6 Intel 6 and Will 2. /me goes outside behind the barn with a gun It would be at #3 on my current list: SP/Hour Years custom 2,311 24.34 Keep in mind you can't beat PER/INT overall, but yours would be more flexible.
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 16	Posted - 2017.01.08 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote u3pog wrote: Chribba wrote: We did not have remaps back then no, took what like 5-6 years before remaps got into play All hail Dr Caymus for picking the right **** back then! /c Haha, that was my 2nd thought. If Dr. Caymus was first, he must have picked the correct attributes. Well, it mattered until last February. Glad to see the "Eagle eye" is watching the Internet, Chribba. Couldn't he have just trained whatever "fit" his attributes?
THE PROG WHAT THE HEK. 16	Posted - 2017.01.09 15:30:57 - [8] - Quote Major Trant wrote: OP - have you accounted for the fact that many of the T2 ships in Spaceship Command are mapped Primary=Willpower, Secondary=Perception. In particular: Assault Frigates x 4 Black Ops x 10 Command Destroyers x 6 Command Ships x 8 Electronic Attack Ships x 4 HAC x 6 HIC x 6 Interceptors x 4 Interdictors x 6 JF x 14 Logistics x 6 Logistics Frigates x 4 Marauders x 10 Recons x 6 Transports x 6 Of course! That's where almost all of the willpower primaries comes from: Assault Frigates Black Ops Doomsday Operation Doomsday Rapid Firing Command Destroyers Command Ships Covert Ops Electronic Attack Ships Exhumers Expedition Frigates Heavy Assault Cruisers Heavy Interdiction Cruisers Interceptors Interdictors Jump Freighters Logistics Cruisers Logistics Frigates Marauders Recon Ships Transport Ships Broker Relations Retail Trade

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